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伟德是业界内数一数二的大公司,以后怎么走?

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发表于 2010-12-11 06:57 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
韦德曾经是业界内数一数二的大公司,在Tony Bloom 的助阵下令各大竞争对手闻风丧胆;今时不同往日,Tony Bloom 已经自立门户,在多位专才退出和ZHG打击下韦德中文市场沦落到今天如斯田地,只能仰天长叹!!!
发表于 2010-12-11 12:19 | 显示全部楼层
下面这段文字是叫伟德当年派 Tony Bloom 来闯亚洲的故事

Off the rails and gathering pace
More and more of Victor's business is based in the Far East these days. He says the appetite for punting on football in Hong Kong, Thailand, Singapore, Cambodia and Malaysia knows no bounds, and some of the sums he mentions are truly astronomical. JP McManus is by no means Victor's biggest punter - that accolade belongs to a client he refuses to identify, on the other side of the world.

Victor gets a framed letter down from his office wall. Although he has his thumb strategically placed over the punter's name it clearly shows that he had - and probably still has - a client in the Far East who owed him over 20 million quid: £21,245,000 to be precise. At the time, the guy had been stretched by the collapse in the Asian financial markets and was unable to pay up. Victor had written on the bottom of the letter: 'Will settle for £15 million. £3 million to be paid this month, £2 million a month thereafter.'

Victor tells me the same punter lost £10 million playing baccarat in one day in Vegas but always comes back for more - although this depends how much brandy he's drunk.

It was back in the mid-1990s that Victor woke up to the fact that the Far East was going to be a huge market. It was around the same the time that he was thinking about a move off-shore - and what a move that turned out to be.

People forget that Victor is the man we have to thank for being able to bet tax-fee in this country. His move to Gibraltar sparked a chain of events that ultimately forced Chancellor Gordon Brown into his historic decision to abolish betting duty. That pernicious little 9% tax, payable on stake or winnings, went up in smoke faster than one of Victor's Cuban cigars. All the other bookmakers were forced to follow Victor's lead.

'I also looked at Jersey, Antigua and the Isle of Man before settling on Gibraltar,' reveals Victor. 'Cyril Stein [the then recently departed boss of Ladbrokes] tipped me off about its potential.'

He went over to have a look and liked what he saw. With a warm climate and only three hours from the UK, it was the ideal spot.

'We were up and running in Gib for Euro 96, getting the phones going just before the first game of the tournament. We made a lot of money. I'd say that Euro 96 was where we really started the business we have now. I now have 40 Chinese-speaking telephonists.'

Checking out the opposition

Victor rates Tony Bloom as one of the best football analysts in the world. Little wonder - around the mid-1990s, Bloom was taking money out of Victor's coffers like it was going out of style. So much so, in fact, that Victor eventually offered him a job as his Director of Football at the end of 1996.

'I sent him to Thailand for a year to research the market. Tony found out that we faced huge, and I mean huge, competition from the so-called 'illegals' in the Far East - especially Hong Kong, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia and Cambodia,' says Victor. 'Some of these illegal bookmaking organisations have 200 telephonists! They often get raided and are closed down but they're always up and running again within a few hours. It's quite incredible

He talks about Singapore and a city over the causeway in southern Malaysia called Johor Bahru.

'There are bookies there who take bets in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, all over the Far East really. Taiwan is huge: you wouldn't believe how big. There's a bookie there who takes £30 million a month. It's just him and a phone. Unbelievable.'

He says there are around 20 illegal bookmakers in Johor Bahru who between them pretty much have the market sewn up. They are responsible for 80% of the betting turnover in the domain - an astonishing £300 million a month between them.

'I've been over to meet many of my Far Eastern clients and met some of these bookmakers in Johor Bahru. Monday is settlement day and these guys meet up and settle their bets with each other in cash. You can have 20 people in a backroom handing over suitcases full of money to each other and you won't see anything like it anywhere in the world.

'While I was there, a waiter brought out a huge fish on a plate. It's very hierarchical and one of the biggest bookmakers smelt it and said, 'Long time, no swim,' and sent it back. I couldn't believe it.'

Victor says the punters' appetite for football over there is much greater than their counterparts in Europe. Betting volumes are 200 times bigger in the Far East than over here. And with the opening up of China and the booming business environment in Shanghai, he's all set up to take a chunk of this market. He smiles as he tells me that more live European football games are shown there than in Britain.

But there's a lot more to VC's business than the sportsbook. There's a clutch of websites offering virtual horseracing at 'Chandler Park', another virtual game called Football 24/7, the online casino thespinroom.com, a well-regarded poker room vcpoker.com. Victor describes it as his 'Entertainment portal'.

Entertainment portal? What would the young Victor have said if you'd mentioned something like that to him, back in the 1970s? Thinking about it he'd probably have loved it...
发表于 2010-12-11 12:24 | 显示全部楼层
Tony Bloom自己创业不行,premierbet十分失败
发表于 2010-12-11 15:02 | 显示全部楼层
现在的韦德远远不如以前的韦德了,信誉还是可以的,就是麻烦事很多。
发表于 2010-12-11 17:56 | 显示全部楼层
韦德曾经是业界内数一数二的大公司,只是现在已经没落
发表于 2010-12-11 22:04 | 显示全部楼层
伟德国际肯定没有没落,在英国还是十大博彩公司之一。伟德国际的经营策略在改变,当在中国这块市场很难做的时候,自然就要改变。

首先品牌不再使用VCBET,而是使用Victor Chandler,直接使用老板的名字。VCBET并不能涵盖公司的全部产品。

另外,逐步的使用各地区的网站。中文使用vc-man,西班牙语语网站最新上线Mister Apuestas。南非网站在世界杯前也上线了。

这符合当前世界网络博彩的发展趋势,各地区逐渐有合法化的趋势,因为各大博彩公司不得不将自己的东西针对各地区进行定制和分割。扑克之星、必赢...等公司都在这么做。
 楼主| 发表于 2010-12-13 05:59 | 显示全部楼层
Tony Bloom自己创业不行,premierbet十分失败
wanbet-bc518 发表于 2010-12-11 12:24


是啊,毕竟赌徒出生与庄家背景不同,理念也不同所以经营出问题。
 楼主| 发表于 2010-12-13 06:26 | 显示全部楼层
伟德国际肯定没有没落,在英国还是十大博彩公司之一。伟德国际的经营策略在改变,当在中国这块市场很难做的 ...
wanbet-bc518 发表于 2010-12-11 22:04


韦德现在客服在东南亚,市场开发部门设立在澳门正在积极寻找代理/客源。不过韦德在远东的客户已经减半。(兄台的英文版文章Victor Chandler有提及“柔佛”,这个地方确实是卧虎藏龙的地方。许多出货/冲盘的博彩对冲基金都是在马来西亚。至于Tony Bloom关闭PremierBet后成立博彩狙击基金,以前通过新宝后来as3388,现在通过印尼庄出货到IBCBET了)
发表于 2010-12-13 09:26 | 显示全部楼层
Tony Bloom 現在是專業蛇客了...
想起當年VC在香港的office真是...夕陽無限好
发表于 2010-12-13 10:07 | 显示全部楼层
伟德还是那批人在管理的,只是领头的变了而已。这批人已经完全与大陆玩家的习惯脱节。强迫玩家习惯它?不可能的。就像bet365的娱乐场,强迫玩家习惯它的西方式经营,在EA、HG、M88和BBIN的真人游戏压迫下,多少年都不针对大陆玩家作出改变,最终的结局,大家都清楚了,选择BET365娱乐场的人越来越少。大发娱乐场都作出了改变,推出返水,不同等级的贵宾优待。
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